The Little Stranger is a little known horror film that came out in 2018 that toes the line between murder mystery and horror movie. It is very English in it’s sensibility and might remind you more of the Turn of the Screw or The Remains of the Day than The Conjuring
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If you love scary movies, but wish they were more like The Remains of the Day, then you might like The Little Stranger. It can be found in theaters right now.
The Little Stranger is about Dr. Faraday (Domhnall Gleeson), an english country doctor that starts making calls at the estate of the wealthy Ayers family, Hundreds Hall. Think Downton Abbey, but sadder. Dr. Faraday has a history with the estate, as his mother used to work as a housemaid there. Nowadays, the estate a run-down shadow of its former self and is only inhabited by the eligible bachelorette, Caroline Ayres (Ruth Wilson), her horrifically battle scarred brother Roderick (Will Poulter), her mother played by Charlotte Rampling, and the lone housemaid Betty. But are they the only Ayers living there? We…slowly find out that the house is haunted sorta kinda, and then the movie ends.
My Rating for The Little Stranger
It was a slow movie that could only be generously classified as about 5% horror movie. It’s slightly interesting because of the human drama, but the scares fall flat.
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There is a lot of ambiguity and subtlety in this movie. I walked away wondering if there was any supernatural occurrences whatsoever, and if all of the calamity could be just explained by surreptitious actions of Dr. Faraday and/or human error. The only thing that keeps me from definitively making that conclusion is that the spontaneous scratch marks that appear on Mrs. Ayers, seem to have no other explanation than supernatural phenomena.
So it could either be one bad dude, or it could actually be the ghost of a dead Ayers child that creates all the havoc at Hundreds Hall.
There is talk of poltergeists and a heavy emphasis on Dr. Faraday’s covetousness and forwardness. The poltergeist could be just an extension of Dr. Faraday’s sub-conscience, which is an idea alluded to in the script.
I’m tempted to read the book that the film is based on to get a little more insight into the character of Dr. Faraday, but to be honest, the movie wasn’t interesting enough for me to spend more time delving into the story.
Needless to say, everyone dies because of some curse that befalls Hundreds Hall, and Dr. Faraday is seen in the epilogue wandering the halls staring off into the middle distance. The last shot is of Faraday as a child looking over the balcony that Caroline was pushed over. Does that mean he did it? Was Caroline’s “It’s you” referring to Faraday? I dunno, maybe.
Is The Little Stranger Worth Seeing?
I wouldn’t recommend seeing it in the theater, but it would make a fine “Netflix and chill” movie. It’s not a good horror movie, and it is only a middling drama.
If you are the Dowager Countess of Downton Abbey, you might like it, but everyone else can probably find something better.
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this episode of horror movie talk brought to you by Costco meatballs I don’t know maybe we should just do Costco meatballs and rice for when dinner comes around and you’re barely more ambitious than sandwiches by Costco meatballs in the frozen aisle of Costco today hello and welcome to horror movie talk the horror movie podcast where two schlubby guys talk about spoopy movies with your hosts Bryce Hanson the cool collected nihilist and David day a public urinator who is always right hey this is a podcast for lovers of horror movies old and new who want to hear about what’s in theaters what streaming fresh takes on old classics and terrible movies that are bad enough to be good I’m Bryce Hanson and I’m David day and I’ll have you know I Bryce changed the intro on this and I was not made aware until until I heard it I don’t appreciate that it’s true though I mean just because it’s true doesn’t mean I mean it doesn’t mean it’s got to be part of my intro look man look any red-blooded American male who says that that they’re either who says that they don’t pee in public is either he’s either a liar or they’re real a liar right no I I admit I’ll I’ll pee in public but we’re talking about like campsite on a tree hidden tell the audience about your public urination look the detail I know I’m not gonna be pinned to across here how close was the closest person while you publicly urinated they knew about it and we’re laughing about it of all of them because I was surrounded by my friends at a Slayer concert I where I can’t think of a more appropriate place to be in public than a Slayer concert so I and the only the only oh god damn it I can’t believe this is happening on the pod I mean I guess I should have known that it’s coming up I just forgot I did know that it was coming look I had 88 ounces of beer in me at this point and it hit me like a ton of bricks in the middle of Lamb of God and you know Joker’s to left me close to right I couldn’t get out of there and furthermore I was gonna miss omerta so there you go middle of middle of the Lamb of God set I just got down on my knees you know what it out let her let her go look my friends were in front of me they were downhill from the street they were blockading is making sure that other passers-by didn’t didn’t you know so you you silly their shoes first is what you’re saying right so I you leave out that this isn’t a venue this seated venue which made which made getting out much harder mmm that’s true because you’re you’re boxed in by huge heaping Slayer fans who are like snow heads well I’m not gonna lie and say that there weren’t a skinheads there it’s a small sub sub section of Slayer fans that Slayer is probably not too proud about no one should be proud about it but yeah they were probably there that’s right I’m just giving them hard time yeah that’s a question to the audience how what’s your worst public urination story that’s right try to beat among the masses I can’t think we did more i it would be it would be disrespectful not to alright so today we’re uh yeah first of all let’s just give a couple plugs our website is horror movie talk calm you can also find us on social media or most active on Facebook we’re also on Twitter and Instagram let us know if we should be more active in one of those if you would like if that’s your preferred method of social media yeah we post episodes every Wednesday of horror movie talk this is new we’re moving to a weekly format we’ve got a couple episodes in the bag they’re just waiting in the wings and a bunch of new horror movies coming out in advance of Halloween so we’re trying to up the the schedule please subscribe and leave a review of our podcast on iTunes that helps us out a lot and helps with the visibility of the podcast so today we’re going to be talking about the Little Stranger and how we’ll go over the episode is first off we’ll give an overview of the movie and review and ask or gotten a lot of feedback about wanting specifics about what our scoring system is it’s one to ten one being just a miserable dredge to get through five being average and hits all the marks it’s just an average movie it’s acceptable it’s not fantastic it just doesn’t make you angry just makes you feel and yep I saw a movie and then 10 being just absolutely fantastic just best movie of the year type quality transcends the genre so a couple examples of tens recent tens the witch read to Terry for me yeah we’re gonna be doing an episode than that these are these are recent tens and so like the witch probably a recent 10 that will be a little bit more forgotten it will probably die down in my memory and as time goes on it’s a fantastic movie but it won’t I don’t think it will be yeah an exorcist yeah I mean they’re not necessarily the most popular but if you watch them it would just be hard to disagree that yeah they’re not great movies long standing tens are like psycho The Exorcist right Jaws fives most recent five was the Meg last episode mm-hmm just popcorn movie can’t not good not bad yeah it’s just there and then we’ll yeah thanks to Mark for the feedback on a lot of people seem to be very interested in the scoring system which is interesting to me right you know if you want to know more about if you want us to do something different about it go or add to it let us know that’s right I think in general we don’t get excited easily so if it’s above a five and that’s probably a pretty dang good movie it’s worth we’re seen I mean I think fives are worsening because I like movies yeah yeah I think twos or see I think as I love terrible movies do I think for the most part the stuff is around a five or maybe a little less or a little more yeah yeah I think in general neither of us is terribly swayed you know we don’t have a lot of energy one where we’re pretty pretty neutral going into and coming out of movies right later we’ll be doing a couple bits we’ll do tag lines where we replace the movies tag lines with something that we think is more appropriate we’ll be talking about what’s going on on a Facebook page and a little bit of horror movie news today mostly talking about trailers and what we’re excited about thanks again for listening and let’s get into this show so we went to see the Little Stranger and if you love horror movies but which they are more like the remains of the day starring Anthony Hopkins then this is the movie for you what’s the remains of the day if anyone seen remains of the day that will be a hilarious joke okay here’s the trailer of The Little Stranger not remains of the day the first time I saw hundred told you prepared me for the spell it cast when I saw the house again thirty years later I could hardly comprehend the change in the place why don’t you tell me what’s going on you wouldn’t believe me mother this is dr. Faraday how did you find the patient isn’t under the weather war shock I’ve heard they’re troubled very hush-hush about it a long time ago was it childhood Susan died before I was born there’s something evil in this house that’s nonsense Betty what you doing here you’re right four minutes I did not Oh Mrs S is upstairs trying itself today boys [Music] that’s impossible your mind is playing tricks Susan is a memory it will be explained how innocent you are I’m worried Dodger asked me that he said he could smell smoke I couldn’t smell anything it’s delusions seemed almost contagious someone’s playing games [Music] people are capable of nasty impulses [Music] something in this house that hates us [Music] laughing next is a mystery to me the Little Stranger can be found in theaters right now if you’re confused about hearing about this movie that you haven’t heard about it in your horror movie fan I guess I wouldn’t be that surprised it’s barely a horror movie well this is a great example of a trailer that that I saw many times in horror movies you know it was targeted at horror movie fans so I saw the trailer for this in you know in other horror movies and and it sells itself as a horror movie very much yeah the trailer is not what the movie is right the Little Stranger is about dr. Farraday played by Donald domhnall gleeson the what’s-his-name Hawks from Star Wars yeah and many other movies if you’ve seen a red head man and a movie in the past ten years it’s been domhnall gleeson plays an english country doctor that starts making calls to a state of the wealthy heirs family the state is called hundreds halt thinking Downton Abbey but sadder dr. Farraday has a history with the estate as his mother used to work as a housemaid there nowadays the estate is a rundown shadow of its former self and it’s only inhabited by the eligible Bachelorette Caroline Ayers played by Ruth Wilson her horrific Elise battle scarred brother Roderick played by will Poulter her mother played by Charlotte Rampling and the lone housemaid Betty but are they the only heirs living there we slowly find out that the house is haunted kinda sorta and then the movie ends yeah this left up debate to debate whether I mean I was confused whether it was even haunted because it clearly doesn’t sell it so before we get into spoilers and talking about the details of the plot and what we liked and didn’t like just want to give a quick review with a slow movie I mean it could only be generously defined as a horror movie it’s about 5% horror movie yeah and it’s light it’s like a like if a 90’s family sitcom did a whole episode yeah it would be about that much yeah scary material it’s less scary than or maybe as scary as a tree as a Simpsons Treehouse of Horror right yeah I don’t know I mean even even treehouse of horror would be like the later tree house of horrors where they just get into yeah kind of just more taboo subjects and not actual or right American Horror Story is leaps and bounds scarier than this it’s slightly interesting because the human drama but the scares fall flat I give it a score 4 out of 10 see I for me this is a five because it’s it’s interesting enough on its own you know it wasn’t it wasn’t offensive at any point it was just a little confusing because I thought we were you know because we’re a horror movie podcast and we were there was like well who else was in the theatre with us old people lots of old people yeah they were gearing up for a period piece which this was yeah more so than a horror movie they were like oh how quaint you know it was kind of that so what score did you say I would give it a five person it wasn’t ups it wasn’t terribly it wasn’t bad like it was not a bad movie to me but I could see how a four would would be where you’re going with it I’ll tell you what it made me think a lot you know we did talk about it after the movie and I was interested enough to kind of look a little bit deeper raft afterward yeah it did inspire discussion but it’s my question is is it did it inspire discussion because it wasn’t effective or did it inspire discussion because it’s accurate cheap yeah or did it inspire discussion because it was actually thought-provoking I’ll tell you what it was beautiful yeah it was like the the scenery and the location filming and like all the seasons and like the house itself Wow oh yeah I’m very pretty Domino’s domhnall gleeson hair line I was fascinating I mean lots of lots of hero shots of his the back of his head yeah and it is exquisite craftsmanship of whoever did his hair yeah it reminded me of your hair yeah often yeah because because it’s so like cloth you know it just very clearly has the comb marks and and that your hair does that you very free I mean it’s obvious that you comb your hair and care about how it looks when you leave your house right I have I have rolled out of bed and walked into the everyday of my life since I was 12 yes eh I stopped combing my hair at 12 and then but people like Domhnall and Bryce are keeping you know keeping it suave right well I mean it’s different hair types if I rolled out of bed you would definitely be able to tell yeah what did your hair I mean there’s nothing to be done it’s it’s just as that it’s just what it is here have you ever grown out of fro could you do afro I want to do I could do afro it gets heavy it’s really it’s not fine enough to do a you know at about 3 inches you can do a decent fro and then pass that it’s just it’s just gonna get greasy and and and weighed down it’s gonna look like you know it’s gonna look like a kind of gross mad of grease alright well let’s get into spoilers [Music] okay so I I think to start out with this movie about how it’s barely a horror movie or confusing its who is targeted to I think the most telling thing is the previews that they showed before the movie you know what were they like it jumped between horror movies like legit horror movies and gosh I can’t remember the other ones but there they were just regular dramas drama or period peace movies yeah it was just hard to know what the audience for this movie was yeah look in the theater it was a lot of old people and it was probably people I mean I it’s the people that don’t know what movies are out they look at the newspaper and they’re like what’s plain and they don’t want to see the meg hmm they don’t want to see a superhero movie right like oh oh this is about 1950s 4040 felt no it wasn’t 40s it was it before the war okay I’ll buy either one of those around that time right it wasn’t during the war no so but yeah it was it was confused about I was confused about who it was for afterwards it was very very English going into it yes it was very English going into it I was sure that it was a horror movie and then about 50 minutes through I turned to Bryce with Ernest you know with Ernest concern and said is this a horror movie yeah are we supposed to be in here are we supposed to be here like I was I was legitimately confused and I I had a little bit of that you know that you know that disorientation that hits you after watching nine trailers before a movie when you go am i what here we see what is happening that hit me about 50 minutes through and I and I became alarmed and worried that like we were seeing the wrong movie or something like that that experience was interesting and new to happen halfway through a movie right yeah when I say it’s very English I think it is a very English style scary story mm-hmm like Christmas Carol like well technically yes that’s a ghost story yeah oh that’s a good point that’s it’s very it does not dwell on the dread of the supernatural it’s just kind of incidental yeah incidental dread right that being said that’s a really good point and I think yeah I I would say that this is a in English an English feeling horror movie right yeah so the movie starts out its kind of a flashback of this dr. Farraday character when he’s a child and he’s been a visiting hundreds Hall and he does not feel I mean he’s he’s not one of these wealthy people and he’s out of place and by happenstance he’s able to kind of wander around the the halls of hundreds Hall do they have a hundred halls hundred tall maybe maybe that’s me I don’t know man it was a huge house it was three or four stories of and palatial right and the main thing is that he feels out of place when they take a picture some you know girl that Sukey Sukey from the heirs family stands right in front of him so he can’t be seen the photograph and I guess that makes him sad and then sad / Matt Matt’s at later in the movie it’s revealed that don’t dun dun he steals a little acorn from a frame yeah from a from a like a mirror frame like a wooden mirror frame that has like a bunch of like carved like beautiful acorns and leaves and stuff he like walks up and snaps off an acorn yeah a lot of a lot of intent is he’s good placed on that snap like that snap is the snap heard around this movie yeah yeah and the sound effect of the snap is used over and over again no job yeah sorry I didn’t mean it messed up there so that’s that’s like one of the things that was confusing to me is what is the motivation of Faraday and how much significance does that have on the current day Faraday in his mindset yeah they did a real bad job of conveying that because as it turned out it’s very important this is one of those movies that’s like that’s very 6nc you know it’s like well let’s go through the whole movie and and then we’ll tell you that there’s a twist right but there’s no but not actually tell you what the twist is but not act yeah but not actually tell you what the twist is and also like make make you completely guess like there’s there’s no feeling throughout that yeah there’s going to be a twist and it kind of what it’s setting up throughout the whole movie I mean just like any period piece it’s a lot about the class system it’s a lot about yeah people living in these palatial estates that have hordes of service servant to write this piece on homelessness an organ Symphony was playing it and they’re trying to ask him you know the meaning behind stuff and and he was really hesitant to but true kind of describe and describe what he was what he meant by stuff and a lot of the the early movements were very common garden and whatever and then there’s kind of stuff that was very tongue-in-cheek but you know one of the things he said was that in any art form it’s important to have some level of ambiguity especially in great art yeah having a level of ambiguity and and yeah I too love that that it does movies that don’t hold your hand and well you just experience it and you have to draw your own conclusions it’s the best it’s a mental puzzle that you you get that they give to you and then you get to unravel it’s one of the things that makes a movie or any yeah like you’re saying any piece of art great right now with that being said there was almost too much left unanswered in this movie yeah I’m left like wondering is is the ambiguity earned or is accidental accident yeah accidental ambiguity or is it or is it they just don’t know how to tie things together or convey what they want to convey and then at the end they’re just like I think I’m gonna go I’m gonna go with like I’m gonna lean a little bit after having done some homework and that’s important to mention because the movie interested me enough to go and do homework afterward right so there’s something there but after doing some homework I started piecing together even more parts of the puzzle and going oh this wasn’t as this was more intentional than I thought like I like leaving the movie I was confused I was a little bit like what was that about like and what about this and that but look if you look at the poster for the movie it’s the whole the whole answers right is right in the poster even which is which is what’s what’s his name his strange name Faraday yeah Faraday but what’s his Oh Dom no Dom no yeah it’s it’s a it’s it’s like a side portrait of him only only like the only the important part of his face has like fallen off it like as if he were a statue that had been carved of stone and and the parts of the stone had had been had had been weathered by time and had come off right well it was like a it’s like a oil painting with me and this falling off from disrepair something like that I think there’s a few different ones but in any case it made it clear that this man is falling apart it is it is him who who is the broken one it’s not you know you can draw a lot of conclusions just from looking at that poster after having watched the movie and go oh it this is very intentionally him and it’s just that and and to be fair to them at the end it it really points the finger at him yeah it albeit confusingly but you guys because there’s like I said I predicted that they’re gonna just place it all on Farraday but then I go back and and think about some of the stuff that happens and I don’t think that he could do that but yeah I think the answers are in there let’s just go over kind of the the bad things that happen in the movie real quick so these are it starts out yeah it starts out and really stuff starts going wrong during this one party that they have and they haven’t had any kind of gathering gathering at this house for a very long time because it’s an ill repair and they’re just kind of like stapling stuff together to make it presentable for just a couple people showing up yeah and the party is attended by the whole Ayres family – Rodrick because he’s kind of going he’s having anxiety issues Rodrick is the battle-scarred just horrific Elise card veteran young parent burns over like good 50% of 85% of his body or something yeah like both of those legs are probably just completely mangled yeah and his faces yeah good makeup on him yeah great great makeup on great acting yeah so he’s not wanting to come to the party and he says some foreboding things like I’ve got a bad feeling and you know going to Faraday and saying don’t you don’t you feel that basically and then during the party I don’t know our name but I’ll call our Veruca Salt because you just like the little the little girl that was spoiled girl that their parents are making a point of not having any rules whatsoever because it might cause neuroses their guest she’s a guest in this house right and I believe she’s the only young child yeah in the house at this point she is very during this party fixated on the family dog which is an old like Rottweiler no black big fat lab Mike lab and she kind of follows up behind this curtain and they’re playing around and then she gets viciously mauled by the dog and so you know like okay Roderick was right he you know for told they had happening so that’s the first thing that happens and then later and the let’s just go through these real yeah yeah yeah no I’m with you I just find myself drawing connections as we speak right like or and not also being more confused right Roderick later he’s in his study or in his office it’s like his room yes basically his bedroom in his office and he’s yelling at the wall or something like that and then we get a brief shot showing that the bookcase is going up in flames it’s a list it seems like a dream almost like he’s watching it happen but it’s not happening like it’s happening for him and no one else kind of yeah it’s portrayed as spontaneous combustion basically yeah like like the house is you know like the house is out to get him right and and I think he says something that affected you know the house is too much for me I can’t take I can’t take it and so Roderick gets committed by dr. Faraday or dr. Faraday brings in a psychiatric doctor and drive Roderick it’s Carter to the loony bin and then by the way it should be noted that Roderick was was in the process of selling the property in the house right and and so as he is ramping up his efforts to sell the house well he’s not selling the house yet but he is selling the property to get some money right but he’s selling very important property as opposed to like the scrub that he initially wanted to write and and right before he’s getting committed he had sold the house he said he said oh it’s it’s almost done like I almost have this shit gone hello I missed that but like we’re like this house is almost gone from us and we don’t have to worry about and right then he gets committed by Farraday right but it wasn’t it wasn’t insidious at all when it happened really it was just like yeah guys I mean look at him he’s he’s got PTSD he’s seeing fire he’s all scarred up right the next weird thing that happens is they start hearing some things around the house a lot of what’s in the trailer is in the next part and they see little scratches of this dead daughter’s name so the daughter that blocked faraday’s away in that photo later that day ended up dead later the day so way back when from when Farraday was young and just visiting the house yeah later that day this this little girl who was the family’s first daughter died and I believe that was the beginning of the end for this unfortunate family that was a seer the first in a series of many unfortunate events that led to this house and the property needing to be sold just so that they can get but this once prosperous family can make ends meet so these mysterious scratches and and lettering starts appearing and you’d show that it’s the name Suki is doing it in there the mother is kind of freaking out and you know they’re just assuming that this ghost is here and so fast forward mother she’s walking with Faraday and this is the this is the one part this is the one supernatural thing that I can’t that I couldn’t say they could go back and say Faraday set this up they’re walking along and then all of a sudden lady Ayers or mrs. Ayers the mom the mom started getting scratched on her skin underneath her clothing these all just scratched enough to bleed yeah through her clothing and then later she commits suicide with the shattered picture frame yeah and it’s all kind of insinuated that she’s being driven insane by this yeah it’s she’s being haunted by a poltergeist or something yeah and then finally the finale or should we wait now before that I just want to point out the other thing you can’t attach to Faraday in any way shape or form as far as I can tell is the dog attacking that little girl in the party that first point you brought up yeah the dog attacks are it end it’s like an alarming sound and you know it’s like a it’s it’s like a spooky sound along with a dog growling and and mauling this little girl but it’s also that’s that’s one of those that I would attribute to that could just be a regular Vince dance yeah so anything anything that supposedly supernatural could be said to be naturally occurring so the dog attacking a girl that’s probably sticking her finger up its ass dogs dogs attack he does do that that’s what David all dogs and the fire in the study all you got to do is show each Rodrik lighting a match in a flashback and that’s perfectly normal yeah you know lady Ayers committing suicide I mean you know people commit suicide commit suicide yeah like I said the one thing that just doesn’t make any sense is that the scratches spontaneously appearing yeah her skin that’s like the only one that couldn’t be retcon to me yeah everything else can definitely and does does get a decent enough explanation so there they do make us bells ringing oh the bells well they even say that in the scene yeah but that was just mice yeah but that’s that’s like the the point of the movie that the trailer hung its hat on like it was like ding ding ding ding ding ding meaning shows these bells you know these servant bells showing all these different rooms asking for attention there’s nobody in the house right but then like you so you’re like when the bells are ringing you’re like okay here comes this spook gonna get spooky and and then they just they just open a door like otherwise in there they could have drawn it out a little bit they just opened a drawer and they’re like oh yeah mice they’re pulling on all the strings and it’s like that was so goddamn it lame you could have made it spooky so they do make a point of mentioning poltergeist Faraday yeah talks about theories of you know a conscious and subconscious mind that’s separate from you and you know the doctor these talking to is like what you’re talking about is a poltergeist and he’s like well maybe you know so that that must he’s talking about how this insanity that’s in this family in this house is catching and that he himself feels like he’s starting to believe weird stuff is going on and that it’s not explainable and so they kind of hand that to you that poltergeist is a thing and so that is possibly key to interpret the movie I think it is either it’s either the dead girl haunting the house or it’s Faraday acting as kind of like a Carrie type situation poltergeist making things happen around him yeah because of his intention so it’s made pretty clear that Faraday wants into this life and when things happen that threaten that they must be bad things happen yeah after that right so Rodrick you know is gonna sell off some of the properties like no you can’t do that we got to stop that like faraday’s all of a sudden very very ya concerned about the property itself and he’s and as their doctor as I’m thinking about it there’s also that part where Roderick had sold a piece of the property and there’s work being done on that piece of the property by construction workers to build like housing for low-income people or or something to extent just normal people but they’re low-income people right by comparison but but if you recall like one of those workers got really deathly ill right and I had to slow down and stop construction huh I forgot all about that I just I’m just remembering it now I didn’t even notice that attachment that relation yeah but you’re right as you said you know anything that threatens the the sanctity of this house falling into faraday’s hands ends up poorly right and you know he’s a doctor so he is trusted in this community this is back when doctors made house calls and were obliged to to make sure that the people that they treated work were okay right and there’s many parts where he’s you know he’s kind of touting that power a little bit jokingly but also not joking like right so the other thing with with a mother so a major plot point is Faraday eventually proposes to get married to Caroline heirs and she’s it seemed that was so awkwardly forced yeah I was like watching somebody get marriage raped it was not he was like just marry me please please can we get married and she was like tears in her eyes it’s like trying to get my wife to watch a scary movie just like I don’t like no actually it’s not anything like that because my wife would never say yes but yes so he proposes to get married and then when Caroline says oh we can’t live here he’s very like oh well we we have I had to turn down that other job in London and she’s like but it was my way out of this horrible house I need to get out of here and he’s like no why no it’s okay she’s also she’s blaming her mother like we can’t live here with my mother while we’re married and he says she’ll have to live with a baby used to it she’ll get used to it or or something and so there’s kind of this threat of the mother being the cause of Faraday and Caroline not being able to live there and so all of a sudden when mrs. Ayers kills herself it’s like question mark question mark question mark is this Faraday and then finally the very end might as well spoil the whole thing Caroline is investigating some sound in the middle of night that went by the night and this is after she her mother broke off the marriage to Faraday saying like I don’t yeah I can’t get married to you that’s right and then I was like well sleep on it just yeah you know it’ll be cool and then she is investigating the sound and then she’s shoved over the balcony on the third floor and falls to her death and the last thing she says is like something like oh it’s you or it’s you yeah and so she recognizes whoever it is whoever is about to push her off of the balcony right and so that’s also highly suspect that Faraday is it could be either like the insinuation that the movie makes the whole time is this is her sister Sookie who died tragically when she was very young this movie makes it it makes it hard attempt the whole way through it to pin this on the ghost of Sookie yeah or season but it can easily be Faraday except for a couple just actual supernatural things that I can’t I mean unless he is some kind of magician where he can make scratches appear yeah after but it doesn’t say anything about him examining the mom and it’s a very interesting movie yeah I mean that’s why I’d give it a five instead of a four just cuz it’s like I’m still the kind of torn about it and it’s well done enough to make me think well I mean I don’t know like yeah I’m having a good time trying to puzzle it right right so anyways it all and the very end yeah and then it shows kind of a epilogue where Faraday is in the house after it’s even more decrepit and after all the development and the adjoining land that got sold was developed NEC like oh yeah the view is definitely you know kind of ruined from this house and it’s completely it’s like filled with leaves and yeah stuff that’s falling apart and he’s looking through and the question he asks is like what is he still doing hanging around there everyone’s dead and like why is why is even there like he’s it shows that this house was really important to him and then the final shot is like him as a boy at the top of the balcony looking down at the body looking down or at the spot where he wouldn’t pushed but then it’s it’s like that what’s-her-name Caroline Caroline where he yeah it’s it’s it’s basically him as a child standing at the third floor looking down at where he where she had just died right but what makes it including what makes it confusing is that it’s that decrepid likely filled yeah so it’s old house it’s like now time it’s not old time it’s now time and it’s not the time that Caroline got pushed right it’s it so if I if I was to guess what they were trying to say by that it’s oh it’s dom Nels character it’s Faraday being jealous Faraday being jealous jealousy of a child yeah having the jealousy of the child push yeah his spurned fiancee yeah that’s that’s what the core of of his inspiration yeah but but then again just the the mixed message of its in the old house and it’s just him showing and the flashbacks of when he was a kid he wasn’t at the top of the stairs so that’s got to be meaningful that it’s that top balcony I mean as we were walking out David you were talking about oh it’s showing that Faraday killed Sookie right yes yeah that’s right because she died that day yeah day that he he he learned of his love for this house and this life and she kind of she kind of pissed me off because she blocked right view of the Ambra and when he ripped off the acorn she was like smirking she was there to witness his mother beating slap the shit out of ya dude he got molested with that hand like she smacked the shit out of him yeah but when I did a little more research on this movie looked on the Wikipedia page so it should be worth mentioning this movie is based off of a novel and also called the littlest stranger yep okay and apparently from the comments that I’ve seen it’s very true to the novel in terms of plot and reading the Wikipedia entry it’s it hits all the beats but what people say is it leaves out a lot of the character development for Faraday and a lot of stuff about his motivations mm-hmm which is like okay yeah that that is kind of missing I bet there’s a piece missing of giving you a little more inclusive and then that was my immediate thought coming out of this movie was man this would make a spectacular book and then he said well it is it’s based on a book and I said I’m sure it’s much better right because it yeah because this is this is book fodder this is right where it would shine and then the the thing that ruins your theory I read that the in the book Sookie dies because of getting like dysentery or something it’s like a sickness she wasn’t murdered she was down with the sickness hmm well I mean it could be that same it could just be the malevolent childish spirit of of Faraday like inflicting evil upon those who get in his way Yeah right it’s the same way that that the construction worker was was made ill right there is a couple quotes that kind of point to that I think it’s Caroline says both she says whenever you go away something terrible happens or something happens and then she also says sometimes I think you want me to be tired and he does because that’s that’s after she’s she’s doing she’s saying she wants to do something that he doesn’t want her to do and he’s like you’re just tired yeah we’ll talk about this later she’s like sometimes I think he want me to be tired yeah yeah so who would who would like this movie this movie who would like this movie the Dowager Countess of Downey and Downton Abbey would love this movie I don’t get it but it’s funny why I mean just like old old people will like this movie people that like thoroughly English period pieces would would like this yeah if you like Matlock this isn’t this is a a long version if you like the spooky episodes of quantum leap you’d probably like this movie if you like if you like movies that feel like they’re three hours but are only an hour and a half you like this movie right this movie felt like it was a million years I was just like what is and we got out and I was like it’s gotta be like we went in what was the time we went in to see it it’s like three over three I thought it was like six we got out and it’s like five yeah it was five o’clock so I mean we went into the theater at 3:00 and there’s probably you know 15 it was an hour and a half for movie but of previews and then yeah yeah I don’t know I don’t think it felt too long because I’m used to like period stuff I’ve got a wife this into that and yeah it’s it’s a great period movie like I said it’s beautiful it has amazing everything like everything everything except the it being clear but I mean they even go to the trouble of like showing his some of his like patients and what is normal day isn’t like let’s go to a party and like all this superfluous stuff that doesn’t matter it’s very period feeling you know it’s it’s just like here’s the slice of life back then right my baby he is a cutie man yeah was a good-looking little man we went to Mount Saint Helens Observatory oh you did yesterday you did yeah yeah we went after church and gosh that’s any time you go out look at the family with three kids this is always a fucking nightmare gosh so it’s two and a half hour drive or something like that it was a miracle that we didn’t stop we just went all the way there which is amazing with kids yeah got all the way up there and then you know spend maybe an hour at the Johnson Observatory we didn’t even go on any hikes we just looked at the museum yeah there’s enough to do it just just at Johnson Ridge Observatory and I used to work out there yes it’d be trails and trails maintenance and Helens it’s interesting seeing how much has changed since last time I was there I mean it’s still pretty desolate but it’s really coming back to recovering yeah really well you can see all the way along the the flow that there’s some greenery been lapping up in 30 36 years I think since Katie 82 Oh was it 80 it was 80 baby okay so 38 yeah yeah so anyways we went up there and and he was like it was probably the fifth time he was called a Gerber baby like he totally is he’s got like the curly hair and chubby face yeah yeah he looks like a total like miniature version of you yeah just up except with curly hair and like and like hope [Laughter] no worry in the world yeah and a poopy diaper oh man he’s he like I such a joy to see him because I walk in the house and his his face just lights up you know he’s like oh he’s just happy yeah yeah so unlike us no we’re pretty we’re pretty happy yeah I’d say all right so that’s I think we’re wrapped up on stranger tell us what you think if you’ve seen the movie I don’t know did you like it yeah I don’t know I mean the more I talk about it the more I feel like yeah maybe it’s maybe it is a 5 or 6 but I don’t know it’s not a 6 I don’t think yeah it does not go above an average yeah I don’t think it’s not I mean it’s it’s slightly interesting I think even the drama could be a little more interesting than it was it’s weird how entertainment works right because the meg was just a real piece of crap as far as as far far as a story goes right right but especially compared to this yeah you know compared to this the meg had no story at all but it was fun enough you know it was like just eye candy and like corny lines and like China’s gonna take over the world and it was entertaining in a totally different way it’s already proven itself aggressive towards boats oh man I can’t remember any of the funny the funniest lines those sharks have no fins okay but but it was as entertaining almost it was about the same level of movie just totally different variety like it’s just strange to me how entertainment works on our brains yeah because this this is about at where the meg was but just for totally different reasons all right let’s move on do you want to do the commercial but first a word from our sponsor taglines is brought to you by Costco taquitos I thought we had more in the freezer don’t buy your roller food from expensive convenience stores buy it in bulk with Costco taquitos just shove them in your freezer you know you lead someday I got a practice for when those real sponsors could start rolling [Music] here’s tagline I think that’s brilliant I want to pat ourselves on the back for that yeah that’s pretty good I was skeptical but it’s good all right the little stranger a spot a fright a spot of fright I like that like a spot of tea there wasn’t enough tea in this movie normally British anything is all about tea references hey can we have some tea now I sure would like it if someone put on a fresh cut I like a fresh cuppa can i with tea give me more like there was no this is David’s conception of any British period pieces all T all it’s not my conception it’s just it just is my observation of all British shit is like where’s the fucking tea like it can all be summed up in like also did we mention tea there’s just too much tea going on there wasn’t enough tea references in this to be an accurate period piece set in Britain the only thing to fear is well we’re working on that just hang out a little longer the end was good the little stranger the remains of the day like bodily remains okay like a remains right it’s a plan no it’s great I love that movie I have to explain it for it to be funny but it is funny once I explain now I’m laughing that’s how comedy work inside okay hang on this this one requires some inflection Thom Yorke and Bjork are on a collision course and deal okay let’s start that again I love the idea that Dom DOM Hall looks so much like Thom Yorke to me it’s ridiculous no way oh man he looks just the same and then Kurt and the lead actress looks just like Bjork to me they a bizarre I could not disagree more okay well I mean you’re a Gleeson your favorite band ever is his radio head right but how could you they’re both gingers they’re both British Thom Yorke is not a ginger he’s he’s not not a ginger he no he is not a ginger yeah there’s no way to know is what I’m dressed alright anyways we’ll accept the premise and proceed Thom Yorke and Bjork are on a collision course oh and the only road to redemption is through the house that Hall built join us this summer for the little stranger Paul wasn’t the house named hall hall house it’s called hundreds hall hundreds hall I thought it was Hall House no so that ruined my line that was a all right well it’s a I’ll do this one a little stranger the heirs and their heirs heirs the heirs and their heirs as so the heirs is the name of the family this is another one that I need to explain and it will be funny the heirs is the name of the family heirs and right as in the descendants heirs as in mistakes that’s a response my final one is me the movie I’ve got a couple they are varying quality but maybe one will make you laugh okay the little stranger the snootiest of poltergeists pretty good these are just kind of just English phrases the little the little stranger will have no more of that nonsense it’d be better if I had a British accent or a little stranger just dreadful yeah okay the last one the little stranger what’s wrong with his face yeah yeah he had some pretty intense makeup going on yeah what one of the things I want to mention just real quick this movie was the constant promise of something interesting and never a delivery on that promise it was just always like hey no no yeah no yeah even they’ll quote unquote sex scene that was just a blue balls was there a sex thing well he starts was there was a baby no it’s not it’s not a baby yes I mean they’re they’re coming back they’re a little drunk in the car and and Faraday makes his move and then she’s like now so there’s probably like a little third base happening maybe yeah it looked like it but that was like no I can’t do this you know very unrequited love so now we move to from the Facebook this isn’t this is new to me I don’t know what this segment is man I tell you what it is hard to get engagement on social media I now and end its soul-sucking like if if if anybody can can like just humor me while we’re making posts on Facebook insta Twitter uh it would make it a little bit easier or maybe worse I don’t know I think we’ve gotten some pretty good engage engage I think we have to it’s just you’re always thinking about it right you know I was talking I was talking to our mutual friend Eric recently and he is like and he you know they he has a band and and so they you know they do a lot of social media stuff and he’s like oh man it’s necessary but it just sucks your soul and I was like yeah that is what it does isn’t it because you’re required to look at social media and and a little bit of your soul hinges on it you know my hinges on somebody being like hey that was cool yeah and you be like give me that’s the Sweden door from Russia right yeah somebody liking something that I did okay so only uh reboot the intro from the Facebook ooh [Music] the unfriended the unfriended reverse message the upside down message sound so I just wanted to kind of pull some stuff that we’ve been doing on the Facebook page did a couple questions and polls I guess one of each but sounds like we’re really doing it up on Facebook it was one after our last episode on the Meg we posted a question to the Facebook page what is your favorite movie that uses the ocean or an abyss to inspire dread yeah and we got a lot of responses off of it Alicia Clawson said open water which is a great response yeah that was one of the ones that came immediately to my mind Scott Allen says Finding Nemo Garrett your brother says captain Phillips I’m the captain now Justin going additional is Jaws oh yeah man and he said deep blue sea and the spear oh man it’s fear I wanted to talk about that sphere that’s a great call because I remember being at a early teenager when the sphere came out and just being that was dreadful to me like it inspired terror within me yeah I think I read the book before I saw the movie and I don’t remember anything about either one of them it was it was very claustrophobic yeah and it was like you get near this fear that’s at that they discovered at the bottom of the ocean and it’s all gold and shit starts operating like like your worst nightmares start start come true and it was just very it was it was like event horizon basically but underwater and before I think it was before event right right last response was from Evan for reading the nine hours on The Hobbit box set that isn’t it that is a truly dreadful feeling talking about the runtime yeah looking at the runtime for The Hobbit yeah I only have seen I think I saw the first one in the second one the one that ended was Smaug I didn’t see the last one I think I only saw the first one I mean I like Lord the Rings obviously the quality and dropped off so much in the hobbit between Lord of the Rings in The Hobbit I wonder why I mean I guess it’s because they tried to split it up in to make it make it three three hour-long movies no I know why because I saw the behind the scenes stuff they gave Peter Jackson no time for preparation like they were building they were building the train tracks as the train was speeding down the track that error very interesting and there’s like vignettes of them shooting battle sequences when they didn’t even know what was supposed to happen in the battle sequence they just had a bunch of people with swords like fighting each other to get shots and eventually they just I think Andy Serkis the guy that plays Gollum was directing them and eventually is like let’s just stop guys we don’t know what’s going on and they take like a month long hiatus to even just figure out what’s that’s very interesting so so given that they are spectacular well that really puts it into context because because you know I mean the obvious comparison is you go Lord of the Rings Hobbit right look at this one look at that look at that one but one of the best trilogies ever made probably the best trilogy ever made Lord of the Rings by what what could beat it I mean Star Wars oh okay yes true but right right next to it right next to Star Wars stands Lord of the Ring right as far as fantasy I mean there’s not even there hasn’t even been a film that was successful in the fantasy genre in movies that can compare to Lord of the Rings yeah I can’t I can’t really think of one yeah but when you so when you set the Hobbit next to Lord of the Rings you go oh do but when you consider that it was a that I didn’t know that you know it was such a train wreck of a production right yeah okay and then the the other thing we had on our Facebook pages we’ve posted a poll of slashers or found-footage which do you like more which do you like more dead heat 50% and 50% on each of them I’m interested to hear from the people who like slashers more I get it like I like slashes okay I think it might be a generational thing it might be I mean but but if that were so like I would be of the slasher category right but I’m very much the found-footage guy yeah I mean I think we both voted for a found footage yeah I think that’s what we’re into yeah I don’t see any obvious lines to to draw from who responded now there’s some interesting stuff about about both that kind of crossover so like for example I’m thinking like Halloween right so Halloween kind of introduced the first-person perspective camera behind the mask you know it’s like it’s like it which is essentially that’s like found footed way before found-footage it’s not footage being found but it’s shot in the same way it’s a lurking and at but you’re put in a perspective of like the killer and then you get to watch and perpetrate these horrible crimes against against you know his family and friends and stuff like that and then there’s also aspects of that that inspired Dredd and in found footage that are make you feel that kind of that same sense of like dreadful helplessness where because the camera will be like stationary and you’ll you know you’ll see somebody walking up behind somebody else and there’s nothing you can do is just write that kind of wait for it yeah yeah it’s that kind of thing so I get it yeah yeah but yeah that’s interesting fifty-fifty so anyways that was from the Facebook [Music] last off just wanted to cover some horror movie news upcoming movies this week the nun is coming out we’ll be seeing that and doing another episode next Wednesday will be the release I just want to say the trailer for the nun has the most effective jump scare I’ve ever seen yeah I I know it I’ve seen it six times yeah isn’t it over theater I’ll jump every time like I know exactly what’s happening and even this last time it still got me yeah every time it works yeah I don’t necessarily jump but it alarms me right I go mm-hmm overload is another trailer in the movie from what I can gather it’s a movie about a drug that makes you arch your back you know it’s a it’s a it’s a knock T killin movie mm-hmm yeah I think not to you super army movie it looked like Wolfenstein the movie to me right this first time I saw the trailer for Hellfest was it the Little Stranger have you seen trail eyes I’ve seen that trailer before it’s like a pretty generic slasher yeah set in a really scary haunted house none like a theme park content unlike a haunted theme park well they got like the haunted houses where it’s you know your generic Cantus house that may be like a high school could make but now they have these extreme like 90s you know starting with the letter x extreme haunted house where it’s an experience and they will literally like dunk your head in water and do shit to you that will actually make you start wondering if you should have done this yeah like yeah like or like like haunted houses that make you stuff like that that ya Madren they’re advertised on the radio until you yeah it’s an experience so terrifying you need to sign a waiver yeah so it’s it’s jumping on that train the predator two weeks and OH X I did for the predator yeah the predator is David’s favorite mmm franchise I love it other than what do you like more predator aliens and I mean they’re that I mean they’re of the same variety I like alien more I’d say I loved I love the universe like I love the comics I love the movies I love Prometheus I love all of it it’s all it’s the best yeah so the thing that I’m I’m not super interested in prayer I think the predator movies that I’ve seen is probably most of the original because I watched it with my brother when I was a kid I saw alien vs. predator which is one of the worst flu movies oh and then this one I’m excited about because it’s written I think it’s written and directed by Shane Black did you see predators the most recent one with Adrien Brody Adrien Brody Adrien Brody Adrien Brody yeah that one was pretty good yeah yeah so Shane black he was actually in the original predators and he apparently punched up the script of the original predator oh yeah okay cool and so Shane Black is the guy that does a lot of buddy cop movies and is the best at it so he did Lethal Weapon and he did the good guys most recently which I loved I love the good guys I did not like the good guys that makes it so he’s done a couple Donald Glover don’t Donald Glover movies then because he must he must have got his hands on predator 2 yeah maybe I’m not sure but predator 2 was one of these like it was like it was made naughty to me because I watched as a kid and there was a lot of there was like nudity and drugs and like extreme gore you know there was like a you know the predator like pulled a spinal cord in the skull out of a dude’s body and so it was suspected that in the first one two thinks it’s it’s there – it’s basically predator did predators do that that is their deal they they pull your skull in your spinal column out so it probably you’re probably right but so yeah I think Shane black on the first one wasn’t even really credited but he was like he definitely in his hands were on that script to punch it up a little like any of the kind of sarcastic stuff that that sells the ridiculous lines probably had Shane black okay right in it so I think I think that that is I’m very hopeful for that movie just as a public service I looked at what’s arriving on Netflix and Amazon Prime this month on Netflix you might be interested in King Kong the one with Jack Black uh-huh Texas Chainsaw Massacre the beginning September 17th the which which is if you have not seen it see it it’s fabulous one of the greatest movies I’ve ever watched I mean if you’re looking for a period piece horror movie watch the way it I don’t think there’s anything better than the witch yeah just impressive it the guy used the actual transcripts of court records to write the script so it’s so close to Salem witch glitch yeah yeah witch trials yeah Amazon Prime this month poltergeist to the other side still haven’t seen that one you don’t seem poltergeist – no I’ve only seen the first one I’m not a fan I like poltergeist I mean I like anything Spielberg everybody I can’t not hate Spielberg Pumpkinhead 1 & 2 will be on Amazon Prime blood wings The Amityville Horror the original 19 1979 version and at the very end of the month of jigsaw if you’re into that I like the M&E Amityville Horror it’s one of those ones kind of like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre the original that is more made more alarming by the fact that it feels gross you know it just feels dirty and and the quality of the film feels dirty and you feel dirty like the subject matter just 100 vomit like yeah I’m pretty sure bomb would blow up the monster right yeah yes yeah I mean if it didn’t blow it up it certainly definite yeah oh that’s a good name the quiet play a quiet place – can you hear me now there yeah there you go all right got anything that would be like the quiet place – and then the tagline is just popcorn crunching sounds shut up put it away all right that’s it for this episode thanks again for listening please share the podcast with a friend if you got anyone that you go see horror movies with or if you’re not into this kind of stuff and you’re just being friendly and nice to us because you know us share it with someone that you do know watches horror movies we love feedback let us know how we’re doing there’s anything you’d like to hear about on our Facebook or in our post comments you can see previous episodes on horror movie talk comm subscribe to us and rate us on iTunes special thanks – I’m gonna say mark mark we’re giving us feedback on you know what he wants to hear about the the ratings awesome yeah alright I’m Bryce I’m David and this was horror movie [Music]
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